After devoting her life studying chimpanzee behavior, Jane Goodall became an authority on the aggressive tendencies of leading males. In a recently released interview recorded shortly before her death, the celebrated primatologist revealed her unconventional solution for handling specific people she viewed as showing similar qualities: transporting them on a permanent journey into outer space.
This remarkable perspective into Goodall's mindset emerges from the Netflix documentary "Last Statements", which was recorded in March and kept confidential until after her latest passing at nine decades of life.
"There are persons I'm not fond of, and I would like to send them on a SpaceX vessel and launch them to the planet he's convinced he'll locate," commented Goodall during her discussion with her interlocutor.
When questioned whether the tech billionaire, famous for his questionable behavior and connections, would be included, Goodall replied with certainty.
"Yes, definitely. He could serve as the organizer. Envision the people I would place on that vessel. Along with Musk would be Trump and various Trump's real supporters," she stated.
"Additionally I would include Russia's leader on board, and I would place Xi Jinping. Without question I would add the Israeli leader among the passengers and his political allies. Place them all on that spaceship and launch them."
This was not the first time that Goodall, a supporter of environmental causes, had shared negative views about Donald Trump specifically.
In a 2022 interview, she had noted that he exhibited "the same sort of conduct as a dominant primate will show when battling for dominance with a rival. They're upright, they swagger, they project themselves as significantly bigger and combative than they may actually be in order to frighten their competitors."
During her posthumous documentary, Goodall elaborated on her comprehension of leadership types.
"We observe, remarkably, two categories of dominant individual. The first achieves dominance all by aggression, and due to their strength and they fight, they don't last indefinitely. The second type succeeds by using their brains, like a young male will merely oppose a superior one if his friend, often his brother, is alongside him. And research shows, they last much, much longer," she explained.
The celebrated primatologist also examined the "social dimension" of behavior, and what her comprehensive research had revealed to her about combative conduct displayed by groups of humans and apes when faced with something they viewed as dangerous, even if no threat really was present.
"Primates see an unfamiliar individual from a neighboring community, and they become all excited, and their fur bristles, and they extend and contact each other, and they show visages of anger and fear, and it spreads, and the others adopt that emotion that a single individual has had, and they all become aggressive," she described.
"It spreads rapidly," she noted. "Certain displays that grow violent, it sweeps through them. Each member wishes to get involved and become aggressive. They're guarding their area or competing for dominance."
When questioned if she considered similar patterns applied to people, Goodall replied: "Perhaps, sometimes yes. But I truly believe that the majority of individuals are good."
"My main objective is raising this new generation of empathetic people, beginnings and development. But do we have time? I'm uncertain. It's a really grim time."
Goodall, a London native prior to the beginning of the Second World War, equated the struggle against the darkness of contemporary politics to Britain standing up Nazi Germany, and the "unyielding attitude" exhibited by the prime minister.
"However, this isn't to say you avoid having periods of sadness, but eventually you emerge and say, 'Well, I won't allow to permit their victory'," she remarked.
"It resembles Churchill in the war, his iconic words, we shall combat them at the coastlines, we will resist them through the avenues and the cities, then he turned aside to a friend and allegedly commented, 'and we'll fight them with the remnants of damaged containers since that's everything we've bloody well got'."
In her last message, Goodall shared inspiring thoughts for those resisting political oppression and the environmental crisis.
"In current times, when Earth is challenging, there continues to be hope. Don't lose hope. When faith diminishes, you become indifferent and remain inactive," she advised.
"Should you desire to protect what is still beautiful in this world – should you desire to protect our world for coming generations, your grandchildren, their offspring – then contemplate the choices you take every day. Because, expanded a million, a billion times, modest choices will create significant transformation."
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